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		By: Juergen Kreileder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juergen Kreileder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, it works. (Except for the plug-in which will have trouble with 64-bit browsers.)

I would agree with your statements on most 32/64-bit systems but not on x86-64. Longmode has quite a few performance related enhancements compared to 32-bit mode, for instance:

&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Twice as many GPRs and SSE registers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FP operations use SSE by default (you can&#039;t use SSE unconditionally in x86 code if you have to keep backward compatibility)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Better calling convention (most parameters passed in registers)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Note that none of these improvements are really advantages of 64-bitness, they just happen to be available only in x86-64&#039;s longmode.&lt;/em&gt;

The disadvantages of 64-bit systems (larger code size, higher memory footprint) are negligible on x86-64. I&#039;ve done quite a few comparisons while porting HotSpot to x86-64, the overhead was pretty small in almost all cases.

On x86-64 all distributions go for a complete 64-bit userland with a 32-bit compatibility environment due to the advantages of longmode. 64-bit mode on other architectures (e.g. ppc64) doesn&#039;t have similar advantages, so most distributions have a mostly 32-bit userland on these.

Anyhow, I don&#039;t care much about an x86-64 version of acrobat but I would appreciate a ppc version.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it works. (Except for the plug-in which will have trouble with 64-bit browsers.)</p>
<p>I would agree with your statements on most 32/64-bit systems but not on x86-64. Longmode has quite a few performance related enhancements compared to 32-bit mode, for instance:</p>
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<li>Twice as many GPRs and SSE registers</li>
<li>FP operations use SSE by default (you can&#8217;t use SSE unconditionally in x86 code if you have to keep backward compatibility)</li>
<li>Better calling convention (most parameters passed in registers)</li>
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<p><em>Note that none of these improvements are really advantages of 64-bitness, they just happen to be available only in x86-64&#8217;s longmode.</em></p>
<p>The disadvantages of 64-bit systems (larger code size, higher memory footprint) are negligible on x86-64. I&#8217;ve done quite a few comparisons while porting HotSpot to x86-64, the overhead was pretty small in almost all cases.</p>
<p>On x86-64 all distributions go for a complete 64-bit userland with a 32-bit compatibility environment due to the advantages of longmode. 64-bit mode on other architectures (e.g. ppc64) doesn&#8217;t have similar advantages, so most distributions have a mostly 32-bit userland on these.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I don&#8217;t care much about an x86-64 version of acrobat but I would appreciate a ppc version.</p>
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		By: Alan Stange		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan Stange]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You do know that the x86 version runs just fine on x86-64 systems right?  It&#039;s not like a 64 bit version of the program will run faster or otherwise work better.   Generally, 64 bit gui programs are a mistake as all the supporting libraries need to be 64 bit as well (gtk, motif, gnome, whatever other toolkits are being used, etc.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do know that the x86 version runs just fine on x86-64 systems right?  It&#8217;s not like a 64 bit version of the program will run faster or otherwise work better.   Generally, 64 bit gui programs are a mistake as all the supporting libraries need to be 64 bit as well (gtk, motif, gnome, whatever other toolkits are being used, etc.)</p>
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